Comments on: The bylaw the UNA deserves, but not the one it needs right now. http://ubcinsiders.ca/2012/09/the-bylaw-the-una-deserves-but-not-the-one-it-needs-right-now/ Separating the wheat from the chaff. Wed, 13 Nov 2019 15:50:57 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: Jack http://ubcinsiders.ca/2012/09/the-bylaw-the-una-deserves-but-not-the-one-it-needs-right-now/comment-page-1/#comment-11262 Jack Fri, 28 Sep 2012 20:33:59 +0000 http://ubcinsiders.ca/?p=9440#comment-11262 Well, I don't think the real issue is driving up densities so much as a serious breach of trust by administration for the time being of The University of British Columbia. I have read a lot of statute law about the University, and I just don't get where they derive the authority to act as a development company, turning the campus into, essentially, a little municipality for the rich, at the expense of its statutory uses. The Endowment lands were _not_ given to The University of British Columbia for that purpose---but who's going to stop them, right? And at this point, the damage is done---the damage to student freedom by the creation of these sorts of bylaws is incalculable, but I guess that is not so bad---apparently children are not supposed to run free/wild; they're supposed to restrain themselves to a specific decibel level, as measured by a cranky neighbour. Well, I don’t think the real issue is driving up densities so much as a serious breach of trust by administration for the time being of The University of British Columbia. I have read a lot of statute law about the University, and I just don’t get where they derive the authority to act as a development company, turning the campus into, essentially, a little municipality for the rich, at the expense of its statutory uses.

The Endowment lands were _not_ given to The University of British Columbia for that purpose—but who’s going to stop them, right?

And at this point, the damage is done—the damage to student freedom by the creation of these sorts of bylaws is incalculable, but I guess that is not so bad—apparently children are not supposed to run free/wild; they’re supposed to restrain themselves to a specific decibel level, as measured by a cranky neighbour.

]]> By: Charles Menzies http://ubcinsiders.ca/2012/09/the-bylaw-the-una-deserves-but-not-the-one-it-needs-right-now/comment-page-1/#comment-11249 Charles Menzies Fri, 21 Sep 2012 23:27:42 +0000 http://ubcinsiders.ca/?p=9440#comment-11249 Neal, while there may be grounds to have concerns over the broad basis of the noise bylaw you don't do justice to the specific issue of the recent noise issues in the add-on playground behind VST. The space was not designed to have a children's play area. The very small pocket park is rather like an echo chamber that magnifies the sounds, rather than dissipating them. It's also a fault line in the on campus jurisdictional disputes since the playground was installed by VST and falls outside of either the UNA or campus planning in terms of who gets to decide. I'm a parent and I had outdoors loving rambunctious children. I know the importance of playgrounds. The real issue here is that UBC has driven up densities and has denied the existence of children and has thus created all of these problems. When confronted they deny yet again and then defer and deflect. Once the property revenue is pocketed UBC turns a deaf ear . . . Neal, while there may be grounds to have concerns over the broad basis of the noise bylaw you don’t do justice to the specific issue of the recent noise issues in the add-on playground behind VST.

The space was not designed to have a children’s play area. The very small pocket park is rather like an echo chamber that magnifies the sounds, rather than dissipating them.

It’s also a fault line in the on campus jurisdictional disputes since the playground was installed by VST and falls outside of either the UNA or campus planning in terms of who gets to decide.

I’m a parent and I had outdoors loving rambunctious children. I know the importance of playgrounds. The real issue here is that UBC has driven up densities and has denied the existence of children and has thus created all of these problems. When confronted they deny yet again and then defer and deflect. Once the property revenue is pocketed UBC turns a deaf ear . . .

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