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	<title>Comments on: Bye-Bye MacInnes Field?</title>
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	<description>Separating the wheat from the chaff.</description>
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		<title>By: W</title>
		<link>http://ubcinsiders.ca/2011/09/bye-bye-macinnes-field/comment-page-1/#comment-10692</link>
		<dc:creator>W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2011 06:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cause they&#039;re going to develop housing where the current pool is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cause they&#8217;re going to develop housing where the current pool is.</p>
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		<title>By: Deniz</title>
		<link>http://ubcinsiders.ca/2011/09/bye-bye-macinnes-field/comment-page-1/#comment-10684</link>
		<dc:creator>Deniz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2011 07:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been reading UBC&#039;s materials on this. I can&#039;t find any real justification for why the pool even needs to be replaced or upgraded. The need for a pool has been completely manufactured, I believe.
Some weaseley statements:
&quot;UBC&#039;s existing aquatic facilities (including the Aquatic Centre, which began operation in the late 1970s, and Empire Pool, built in 1954) are reaching the end of their useful lives.&quot;
* This was never substantiated. In fact, in the documents I read, there was no real problem with the pool. It said the structure was fine and a few systems replacements were needed, although they didn&#039;t elaborate or cite their source for that (they usually do). So, no real urgent problems, from what I could tell. Upgrades are doubtful in the same ballpark as the est. $37 million price tag for a new facility.
&quot;Alongside the need to ensure a new facility can compete with similar centres in other Post Secondary institutions, a new centre will be able to adequately service the growing residential neighbourhoods on campus.  A balance between a competition facility and a neighbourhood leisure facility is a mandate of the final program.&quot;
* No substantiation was offered that a bigger pool was needed for new residents. I find the other excuse, &quot;we want a new pool for big swim meets&quot;, not very compelling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been reading UBC&#8217;s materials on this. I can&#8217;t find any real justification for why the pool even needs to be replaced or upgraded. The need for a pool has been completely manufactured, I believe.</p>
<p>Some weaseley statements:<br />
&#8220;UBC&#8217;s existing aquatic facilities (including the Aquatic Centre, which began operation in the late 1970s, and Empire Pool, built in 1954) are reaching the end of their useful lives.&#8221;<br />
* This was never substantiated. In fact, in the documents I read, there was no real problem with the pool. It said the structure was fine and a few systems replacements were needed, although they didn&#8217;t elaborate or cite their source for that (they usually do). So, no real urgent problems, from what I could tell. Upgrades are doubtful in the same ballpark as the est. $37 million price tag for a new facility.</p>
<p>&#8220;Alongside the need to ensure a new facility can compete with similar centres in other Post Secondary institutions, a new centre will be able to adequately service the growing residential neighbourhoods on campus.  A balance between a competition facility and a neighbourhood leisure facility is a mandate of the final program.&#8221;<br />
* No substantiation was offered that a bigger pool was needed for new residents. I find the other excuse, &#8220;we want a new pool for big swim meets&#8221;, not very compelling.</p>
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		<title>By: Darren Peets</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darren Peets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2011 21:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s wrong with the Aquatic Centre proper?  I know the outdoor pool leaks and is the wrong size, but I thought the indoor version was happy.  Or have they been conflated for convenience?
What&#039;s unique here is not what was done but the degree to which this has been unraveled.  Either someone&#039;s lost their touch or the students are more on the ball than usual.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s wrong with the Aquatic Centre proper?  I know the outdoor pool leaks and is the wrong size, but I thought the indoor version was happy.  Or have they been conflated for convenience?</p>
<p>What&#8217;s unique here is not what was done but the degree to which this has been unraveled.  Either someone&#8217;s lost their touch or the students are more on the ball than usual.</p>
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