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	<title>Comments on: Everything You Always Wanted To Know About The Fee Referendum*</title>
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		<title>By: Elin</title>
		<link>http://ubcinsiders.ca/2011/03/everything-you-always-wanted-to-know-about-the-fee-referendum/comment-page-1/#comment-10541</link>
		<dc:creator>Elin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Mar 2011 05:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Paul,
Unfortunately our hands are tied when it comes to reallocating funding.
The savings from our Health Plan will not be passed on to students if this referendum doesn&#039;t pass. It will go into our reserve fund (which already has over a million dollars).
The proposed fees are a result of months of consultations with students groups and councilors. The current fees are a mess, and have no rationale when it comes to por-ratedness, opt-outs, etc. The proposed system will fix all of this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Paul,</p>
<p>Unfortunately our hands are tied when it comes to reallocating funding. </p>
<p>The savings from our Health Plan will not be passed on to students if this referendum doesn&#8217;t pass. It will go into our reserve fund (which already has over a million dollars).</p>
<p>The proposed fees are a result of months of consultations with students groups and councilors. The current fees are a mess, and have no rationale when it comes to por-ratedness, opt-outs, etc. The proposed system will fix all of this.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://ubcinsiders.ca/2011/03/everything-you-always-wanted-to-know-about-the-fee-referendum/comment-page-1/#comment-10540</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Mar 2011 02:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, no matter what you vote, the savings on the health plan will still be passed on to student services, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, no matter what you vote, the savings on the health plan will still be passed on to student services, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Neal Yonson</title>
		<link>http://ubcinsiders.ca/2011/03/everything-you-always-wanted-to-know-about-the-fee-referendum/comment-page-1/#comment-10538</link>
		<dc:creator>Neal Yonson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Mar 2011 22:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jacob, I should have said more about the AMS&#039;s current financial situation for background. Laura dealt with that better here: http://ubcinsiders.ca/2011/03/how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-endorse-the-fee-referendum/
As for the health plan, the AMS recently switched providers and managed to negotiate a better price for the same coverage. Therefore, no coverage is being immediately lost as a result of the $14.00 decrease. In a sense, it&#039;s the AMS trying to pass on the savings to students (while clawing back those savings at the same time).
However, whether it results in cuts to coverage or reduced flexibility in the future remains to be seen. The AMS re-negotiates their health plan annually. If there were to be a large increase in claims in coming years, it&#039;s possible the insurance companies would raise the price for the coverage we currently receive beyond what the AMS can afford on the reduced fee. In that case, cuts might have to be made to the health plan to meet the price point of the fee. It might happen or it might not. There&#039;s absolutely no way to predict it on a 5 or 10-year horizon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jacob, I should have said more about the AMS&#8217;s current financial situation for background. Laura dealt with that better here: <a href="http://ubcinsiders.ca/2011/03/how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-endorse-the-fee-referendum/" rel="nofollow">http://ubcinsiders.ca/2011/03/how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-endorse-the-fee-referendum/</a></p>
<p>As for the health plan, the AMS recently switched providers and managed to negotiate a better price for the same coverage. Therefore, no coverage is being immediately lost as a result of the $14.00 decrease. In a sense, it&#8217;s the AMS trying to pass on the savings to students (while clawing back those savings at the same time).</p>
<p>However, whether it results in cuts to coverage or reduced flexibility in the future remains to be seen. The AMS re-negotiates their health plan annually. If there were to be a large increase in claims in coming years, it&#8217;s possible the insurance companies would raise the price for the coverage we currently receive beyond what the AMS can afford on the reduced fee. In that case, cuts might have to be made to the health plan to meet the price point of the fee. It might happen or it might not. There&#8217;s absolutely no way to predict it on a 5 or 10-year horizon.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob Bayless</title>
		<link>http://ubcinsiders.ca/2011/03/everything-you-always-wanted-to-know-about-the-fee-referendum/comment-page-1/#comment-10537</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob Bayless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Mar 2011 20:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This article doesn&#039;t discuss one thing that I think is very important, which is what the impact of the -$14.00 decrease to the health and dental plan will be.
What is the cost of this change? What are we losing for it? What is the motivation behind this decision?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article doesn&#8217;t discuss one thing that I think is very important, which is what the impact of the -$14.00 decrease to the health and dental plan will be.</p>
<p>What is the cost of this change? What are we losing for it? What is the motivation behind this decision?</p>
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		<title>By: Hunter Cochrane</title>
		<link>http://ubcinsiders.ca/2011/03/everything-you-always-wanted-to-know-about-the-fee-referendum/comment-page-1/#comment-10535</link>
		<dc:creator>Hunter Cochrane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Mar 2011 02:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a first year who hasn&#039;t been told anything about the fee restructuring, this article really helped me to understand it. Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a first year who hasn&#8217;t been told anything about the fee restructuring, this article really helped me to understand it. Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Laura Rodgers</title>
		<link>http://ubcinsiders.ca/2011/03/everything-you-always-wanted-to-know-about-the-fee-referendum/comment-page-1/#comment-10534</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura Rodgers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Mar 2011 01:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Lionel, well, I wrote almost of 2,000 words about a half-sentence in the proposed bylaw changes that isn&#039;t even in the version going to referendum anymore.
The changes generally do what they say on the box.  Records restrictions do go a little beyond the existing policy but aren&#039;t nearly as bad when they were first drafted, quorum lowering has both benefits and drawbacks (Also, they say they couldn&#039;t pay for a ~1,000 person AGM because it could only be in the Chan, but there are at least 3 other, cheaper places it could potentially be held.)  The no-removing-executives alteration just reinforces what&#039;s already there.  The part about executive remuneration crosses out a portion mandating paying execs an archaic amount no sane person would do the job for ($200) and actually closes a funny little loophole that might require paying, say, an MBA student&#039;s entire yearly tuition if s/he were to be elected to exec.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Lionel, well, I wrote almost of 2,000 words about a half-sentence in the proposed bylaw changes that isn&#8217;t even in the version going to referendum anymore.  </p>
<p>The changes generally do what they say on the box.  Records restrictions do go a little beyond the existing policy but aren&#8217;t nearly as bad when they were first drafted, quorum lowering has both benefits and drawbacks (Also, they say they couldn&#8217;t pay for a ~1,000 person AGM because it could only be in the Chan, but there are at least 3 other, cheaper places it could potentially be held.)  The no-removing-executives alteration just reinforces what&#8217;s already there.  The part about executive remuneration crosses out a portion mandating paying execs an archaic amount no sane person would do the job for ($200) and actually closes a funny little loophole that might require paying, say, an MBA student&#8217;s entire yearly tuition if s/he were to be elected to exec.</p>
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		<title>By: Dominic Tong</title>
		<link>http://ubcinsiders.ca/2011/03/everything-you-always-wanted-to-know-about-the-fee-referendum/comment-page-1/#comment-10533</link>
		<dc:creator>Dominic Tong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Mar 2011 00:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the unbiased, clean read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the unbiased, clean read.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Lougheed</title>
		<link>http://ubcinsiders.ca/2011/03/everything-you-always-wanted-to-know-about-the-fee-referendum/comment-page-1/#comment-10532</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Lougheed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 18:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Haack
It&#039;s true, though our annual expenses are around $100 for servers, domains, and special projects. The winnings from VFM go into our pockets as an incentive to keep it up. We&#039;re not &#039;reliant&#039; on the income. I project we could raise at least our VFM winnings annually from donation drives (but we&#039;d rather focus efforts on content, rather than business, because that&#039;s not the point.)
Used to be and being are very different things.
Oh, also, it was a joke. Hence the FOXTROTian allcaps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Haack</p>
<p>It&#8217;s true, though our annual expenses are around $100 for servers, domains, and special projects. The winnings from VFM go into our pockets as an incentive to keep it up. We&#8217;re not &#8216;reliant&#8217; on the income. I project we could raise at least our VFM winnings annually from donation drives (but we&#8217;d rather focus efforts on content, rather than business, because that&#8217;s not the point.)</p>
<p>Used to be and being are very different things.</p>
<p>Oh, also, it was a joke. Hence the FOXTROTian allcaps.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://ubcinsiders.ca/2011/03/everything-you-always-wanted-to-know-about-the-fee-referendum/comment-page-1/#comment-10531</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 15:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha, exactly what Michael said.
Also, don&#039;t forget that 3/4 of the Insider&#039;s team used to sit on AMS Council. And that 2/4 having been actual Execs (no names).
You used to be &quot;the man&quot; Alex, don&#039;t be so quick to forget that ;)
(Note: I am not implying that the article is biased. Far from it. I&#039;m just pointing out the obvious.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha, exactly what Michael said.</p>
<p>Also, don&#8217;t forget that 3/4 of the Insider&#8217;s team used to sit on AMS Council. And that 2/4 having been actual Execs (no names).</p>
<p>You used to be &#8220;the man&#8221; Alex, don&#8217;t be so quick to forget that ;)</p>
<p>(Note: I am not implying that the article is biased. Far from it. I&#8217;m just pointing out the obvious.)</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Platt</title>
		<link>http://ubcinsiders.ca/2011/03/everything-you-always-wanted-to-know-about-the-fee-referendum/comment-page-1/#comment-10528</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Platt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 08:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not an economist, although I do play one on the internet. But it seems to me that tying a fee to inflation absolutely does not mean it will &quot;result in the largest fee increases to students.&quot; It&#039;s inflation; it rises with the rest of the economy. NOT tying it to inflation effectively results in a decrease in the fee, which is our entire problem in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not an economist, although I do play one on the internet. But it seems to me that tying a fee to inflation absolutely does not mean it will &#8220;result in the largest fee increases to students.&#8221; It&#8217;s inflation; it rises with the rest of the economy. NOT tying it to inflation effectively results in a decrease in the fee, which is our entire problem in the first place.</p>
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