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	<title>Comments on: UBC Expands First Year Housing Guarantee</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://ubcinsiders.ca/2011/02/ubc-expands-first-year-housing-guarantee/comment-page-1/#comment-10525</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 03:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I the only one who&#039;s deeply troubled by this?  Funding new residences in this way makes the construction of student housing contingent on that of market housing, creating disturbing incentives for both the university and for students.
Moving further in the South Gage conversation, for example, the administration can now accurately frame it as a choice between student and market housing.  Alternatively, if the administration wants to expand housing, it may feel compelled to liquidate part of its land base.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I the only one who&#8217;s deeply troubled by this?  Funding new residences in this way makes the construction of student housing contingent on that of market housing, creating disturbing incentives for both the university and for students.  </p>
<p>Moving further in the South Gage conversation, for example, the administration can now accurately frame it as a choice between student and market housing.  Alternatively, if the administration wants to expand housing, it may feel compelled to liquidate part of its land base.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
		<link>http://ubcinsiders.ca/2011/02/ubc-expands-first-year-housing-guarantee/comment-page-1/#comment-10486</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2011 13:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no idea what the length of a Fraser Hall lease is, but I&#039;m wondering whether anyone living there will suddenly find themselves no longer governed by the Residential Tenancy Act. (maybe not, the AMS seems to think that Acadia Park is covered, but I have no idea why.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no idea what the length of a Fraser Hall lease is, but I&#8217;m wondering whether anyone living there will suddenly find themselves no longer governed by the Residential Tenancy Act. (maybe not, the AMS seems to think that Acadia Park is covered, but I have no idea why.)</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Parr - Student Housing and Hospitality Services</title>
		<link>http://ubcinsiders.ca/2011/02/ubc-expands-first-year-housing-guarantee/comment-page-1/#comment-10483</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Parr - Student Housing and Hospitality Services</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 05:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the original posting, Neal, and to all for your thoughtful comments.  I thought I&#039;d jump in with a quick comment for SHHS and UBC.
This issue really needs to be looked at from a broader planning perspective.  About 7 years ago UBC committed to significant growth in the on-campus student housing stock.  The result of this plan was the development of 1640 new bedspaces at a wonderful student community called Marine Drive, dedicated to housing 2nd and upper students and well as grad students.
The next step in this development process, more focussed on 1st year students and created partly for the  purpose of eliminating the regional restriction to our 1st year gtee, was the Totem Infill project, bringing 566 new beds on stream for this fall.  These new beds, we believe, will cover a significant portion of the additional 1st year student residence population we expect to see at UBC this fall.  If more than 566 1st year students are interested in living on campus then we will see the conversion of 2nd and 3rd bedspaces currently at Totem and Vanier to 1st spaces.  While we understand this may have an impact on the number of 2nd and upper year bedspaces we believe this is the right thing to do.  We are also confident the 1st year demand will not exceed the inventory we will soon have at Totem and Vanier.
Finally, moving forward, we are in the design and planning stages of adding an additional 1100 2nd and upper year and graduate student bedspaces to campus, coming on line in 2 phases in 2013 and 2015.  While we recognize this does not directly benefit students in the next 2 years, one must realize that projects like these take time and significant financial resources. UBC is very committed to realizing growth in our student housing stock and is working diligently to close the gap on our supply and the understood demand.
Finally, as noted by Lionel, year round housing is an excellent alternative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the original posting, Neal, and to all for your thoughtful comments.  I thought I&#8217;d jump in with a quick comment for SHHS and UBC.  </p>
<p>This issue really needs to be looked at from a broader planning perspective.  About 7 years ago UBC committed to significant growth in the on-campus student housing stock.  The result of this plan was the development of 1640 new bedspaces at a wonderful student community called Marine Drive, dedicated to housing 2nd and upper students and well as grad students.</p>
<p>The next step in this development process, more focussed on 1st year students and created partly for the  purpose of eliminating the regional restriction to our 1st year gtee, was the Totem Infill project, bringing 566 new beds on stream for this fall.  These new beds, we believe, will cover a significant portion of the additional 1st year student residence population we expect to see at UBC this fall.  If more than 566 1st year students are interested in living on campus then we will see the conversion of 2nd and 3rd bedspaces currently at Totem and Vanier to 1st spaces.  While we understand this may have an impact on the number of 2nd and upper year bedspaces we believe this is the right thing to do.  We are also confident the 1st year demand will not exceed the inventory we will soon have at Totem and Vanier.</p>
<p>Finally, moving forward, we are in the design and planning stages of adding an additional 1100 2nd and upper year and graduate student bedspaces to campus, coming on line in 2 phases in 2013 and 2015.  While we recognize this does not directly benefit students in the next 2 years, one must realize that projects like these take time and significant financial resources. UBC is very committed to realizing growth in our student housing stock and is working diligently to close the gap on our supply and the understood demand.</p>
<p>Finally, as noted by Lionel, year round housing is an excellent alternative.</p>
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		<title>By: Lionel</title>
		<link>http://ubcinsiders.ca/2011/02/ubc-expands-first-year-housing-guarantee/comment-page-1/#comment-10475</link>
		<dc:creator>Lionel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2011 07:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is worth noting that anyone planning on spending the summer in Vancouver who would sign a one year contract with SHHS for the Marine Drive residence will probably have no problem getting housing.  I have been told if you are able to sign starting in May it is pretty much a sure thing.
Of course year round is not for everyone (myself included) but giving first years housing seems like the right thing.  I know my University experience would have been hugely hindered if I had not lived in Rez in first year.  For someone in first year the difference between living on Blanca vs Vanier/Totem is night and day.  That being said, first years who live close will likely decline the offer to save money by commuting (then again with the new U-Pass how much will they actually save?)
This announcement about getting the money to SHHS to build is great!  My understanding was that until now there was a debt limit imposed on the University which limited capital for student housing development, even though the debt for these projects is &#039;good debt&#039; as it pays itself off.  Anyways hopefully buildings keep shooting out of the ground and the waitlist gets smaller in years to come.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is worth noting that anyone planning on spending the summer in Vancouver who would sign a one year contract with SHHS for the Marine Drive residence will probably have no problem getting housing.  I have been told if you are able to sign starting in May it is pretty much a sure thing.  </p>
<p>Of course year round is not for everyone (myself included) but giving first years housing seems like the right thing.  I know my University experience would have been hugely hindered if I had not lived in Rez in first year.  For someone in first year the difference between living on Blanca vs Vanier/Totem is night and day.  That being said, first years who live close will likely decline the offer to save money by commuting (then again with the new U-Pass how much will they actually save?) </p>
<p>This announcement about getting the money to SHHS to build is great!  My understanding was that until now there was a debt limit imposed on the University which limited capital for student housing development, even though the debt for these projects is &#8216;good debt&#8217; as it pays itself off.  Anyways hopefully buildings keep shooting out of the ground and the waitlist gets smaller in years to come.</p>
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		<title>By: TLG</title>
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		<dc:creator>TLG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2011 07:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neal, I don&#039;t necessarily disagree.
But for some context, back when I was in undergrad, the guarantee worked the other way around.  There was no guarantee of getting in to housing; priority was given to people outside the GVRD and people who got the standard no-frills entrance scholarship (the USP, also gone).  However, once you were in, you were guaranteed a spot as long as you wanted one.
I fought the change at the time.  I can recall very long conversations where I&#039;d bitch about it with anyone who would listen.
Campus life  has changed since then.  There are a gazillion reasons that have been covered to death, but the sea change in who&#039;s living on campus is, without a doubt, at least a part of it.  I was able to stay on campus for three years, including summers, and it became a community that I&#039;m still a part of.  Had I been forced to leave after a year, who knows what would have happened?  I know one thing - this web site wouldn&#039;t exist (well, its predecessor site at least).
My guess is that this shift is trading depth of community for breadth of access.  I&#039;m not saying that&#039;s a bad thing, and I get where you&#039;re coming from.  I&#039;m just pointing out the trade-off.
I feel old.  Get off my lawn?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neal, I don&#8217;t necessarily disagree.</p>
<p>But for some context, back when I was in undergrad, the guarantee worked the other way around.  There was no guarantee of getting in to housing; priority was given to people outside the GVRD and people who got the standard no-frills entrance scholarship (the USP, also gone).  However, once you were in, you were guaranteed a spot as long as you wanted one.</p>
<p>I fought the change at the time.  I can recall very long conversations where I&#8217;d bitch about it with anyone who would listen.  </p>
<p>Campus life  has changed since then.  There are a gazillion reasons that have been covered to death, but the sea change in who&#8217;s living on campus is, without a doubt, at least a part of it.  I was able to stay on campus for three years, including summers, and it became a community that I&#8217;m still a part of.  Had I been forced to leave after a year, who knows what would have happened?  I know one thing &#8211; this web site wouldn&#8217;t exist (well, its predecessor site at least).</p>
<p>My guess is that this shift is trading depth of community for breadth of access.  I&#8217;m not saying that&#8217;s a bad thing, and I get where you&#8217;re coming from.  I&#8217;m just pointing out the trade-off.</p>
<p>I feel old.  Get off my lawn?</p>
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		<title>By: Lexi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lexi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2011 04:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Crap. Omit the &#039;let&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crap. Omit the &#8216;let&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Lexi</title>
		<link>http://ubcinsiders.ca/2011/02/ubc-expands-first-year-housing-guarantee/comment-page-1/#comment-10472</link>
		<dc:creator>Lexi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2011 04:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This policy is f***ing ridiculous. I say let the froshies commute and let give us upperclassmen some semi-affordable housing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This policy is f***ing ridiculous. I say let the froshies commute and let give us upperclassmen some semi-affordable housing.</p>
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		<title>By: Neal Yonson</title>
		<link>http://ubcinsiders.ca/2011/02/ubc-expands-first-year-housing-guarantee/comment-page-1/#comment-10471</link>
		<dc:creator>Neal Yonson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2011 04:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim, it does unfortunately mean fewer spots for upper years. While 566 spots are being added, there is still a finite supply with a very long waiting list.
However I do feel that residence, for those who live there, helps define the university experience, is a great way to make friends and is a great way to ensure students are engaged with campus even if they ultimately move off-campus is subsequent years. Giving this opportunity to every first year is something I completely support.
As well, there is a lot of new housing in the pipeline so hopefully those will be directed at upper years students.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim, it does unfortunately mean fewer spots for upper years. While 566 spots are being added, there is still a finite supply with a very long waiting list.</p>
<p>However I do feel that residence, for those who live there, helps define the university experience, is a great way to make friends and is a great way to ensure students are engaged with campus even if they ultimately move off-campus is subsequent years. Giving this opportunity to every first year is something I completely support.</p>
<p>As well, there is a lot of new housing in the pipeline so hopefully those will be directed at upper years students.</p>
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		<title>By: ~*~Sexy Brunette~*~</title>
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		<dc:creator>~*~Sexy Brunette~*~</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2011 03:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THIS IS SO EPICLY AWESOME.</description>
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		<title>By: Michael C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Feb 2011 22:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So that means no one reading this article will directly benefit from this?
On behalf of everyone who is still in high school, YAAAAAAAAAYYYY!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So that means no one reading this article will directly benefit from this?</p>
<p>On behalf of everyone who is still in high school, YAAAAAAAAAYYYY!!!</p>
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