Comments on: Student Court: AUS Presidential Election “void and of no effect” http://ubcinsiders.ca/2010/04/student-court-aus-presidential-election-void-and-of-no-effect/ Separating the wheat from the chaff. Wed, 13 Nov 2019 15:50:57 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: Laura http://ubcinsiders.ca/2010/04/student-court-aus-presidential-election-void-and-of-no-effect/comment-page-1/#comment-9919 Laura Sat, 24 Apr 2010 21:03:08 +0000 http://blogs.ubc.ca/ubcinsiders/?p=2916#comment-9919 Why was it ever considered a viable option to declare the election results based on Matt Naylor's memory, when it was possible to procure another copy of the WebVote results? I can see the highlighter ballot being a gray area, but this one I don't understand. Why was it ever considered a viable option to declare the election results based on Matt Naylor’s memory, when it was possible to procure another copy of the WebVote results? I can see the highlighter ballot being a gray area, but this one I don’t understand.

]]> By: ~*~Sexy Brunette~*~ http://ubcinsiders.ca/2010/04/student-court-aus-presidential-election-void-and-of-no-effect/comment-page-1/#comment-9918 ~*~Sexy Brunette~*~ Wed, 21 Apr 2010 05:21:07 +0000 http://blogs.ubc.ca/ubcinsiders/?p=2916#comment-9918 I love calamari. I also love Matthew Naylor. NAYLOR FOR ADMIRAL. I love calamari.

I also love Matthew Naylor.

NAYLOR FOR ADMIRAL.

]]> By: Tarkin http://ubcinsiders.ca/2010/04/student-court-aus-presidential-election-void-and-of-no-effect/comment-page-1/#comment-9917 Tarkin Wed, 21 Apr 2010 04:47:40 +0000 http://blogs.ubc.ca/ubcinsiders/?p=2916#comment-9917 Student court is a trap! Student court is a trap!

]]> By: Eric http://ubcinsiders.ca/2010/04/student-court-aus-presidential-election-void-and-of-no-effect/comment-page-1/#comment-9916 Eric Wed, 21 Apr 2010 02:45:37 +0000 http://blogs.ubc.ca/ubcinsiders/?p=2916#comment-9916 @ Matthew: Great Rebuttal (I think I used the right term) @ Sexy Brunnete: IMHO, Calamari can be as great a leader as any human (I think you're comparison is to that), especially if they're the Admiral. In fact, I know the Admiral and he is a lot more intelligent than Calamari/Squid I've eaten or know of. @ Matthew: Great Rebuttal (I think I used the right term)

@ Sexy Brunnete: IMHO, Calamari can be as great a leader as any human (I think you’re comparison is to that), especially if they’re the Admiral. In fact, I know the Admiral and he is a lot more intelligent than Calamari/Squid I’ve eaten or know of.

]]> By: Matthew Naylor http://ubcinsiders.ca/2010/04/student-court-aus-presidential-election-void-and-of-no-effect/comment-page-1/#comment-9915 Matthew Naylor Tue, 20 Apr 2010 08:53:31 +0000 http://blogs.ubc.ca/ubcinsiders/?p=2916#comment-9915 1) Clearly you didn't attend the EUS candidates forum. Also, I find your remark insensitive to the Mollusc-Canadians at our school. 2) You're overestimating the costs by about $10000 there, bucko. Also, who are you to question the democratic will of the electorate? The Admiral is a dedicated and experienced rep, running with the benefit of incumbency. 3) You don't use points of information to volunteer information. You use them to ask for it. 4) That's actually a reasonably accurate description of the experience. No motorbikes though, which sucked. 5) Yes. 1) Clearly you didn’t attend the EUS candidates forum. Also, I find your remark insensitive to the Mollusc-Canadians at our school.
2) You’re overestimating the costs by about $10000 there, bucko. Also, who are you to question the democratic will of the electorate? The Admiral is a dedicated and experienced rep, running with the benefit of incumbency.
3) You don’t use points of information to volunteer information. You use them to ask for it.
4) That’s actually a reasonably accurate description of the experience. No motorbikes though, which sucked.
5) Yes.

]]> By: Anonymous http://ubcinsiders.ca/2010/04/student-court-aus-presidential-election-void-and-of-no-effect/comment-page-1/#comment-9914 Anonymous Tue, 20 Apr 2010 07:01:32 +0000 http://blogs.ubc.ca/ubcinsiders/?p=2916#comment-9914 Dear Sexy Brunette, 1) I find it hard to conceive how any candidate could be more ridiculous and dramatic than a Calamari running as AUS Arts Rep. 2) If I recall correctly, said Calamari plus a fellow Jedi were elected. Certainly a testament to the $45,000+ spent encouraging students to come out and vote! 3) Point of information: EUS elections have been happening every year since 1919 without UBCVotes. 4) Please elaborate how someone could man an online voting booth? This sounds like a scene from TRON. 5) Did UBCVotes actually ask HKUS and the EUS for volunteers and/or money? Dear Sexy Brunette,

1) I find it hard to conceive how any candidate could be more ridiculous and dramatic than a Calamari running as AUS Arts Rep.

2) If I recall correctly, said Calamari plus a fellow Jedi were elected. Certainly a testament to the $45,000+ spent encouraging students to come out and vote!

3) Point of information: EUS elections have been happening every year since 1919 without UBCVotes.

4) Please elaborate how someone could man an online voting booth? This sounds like a scene from TRON.

5) Did UBCVotes actually ask HKUS and the EUS for volunteers and/or money?

]]> By: Taylor Loren http://ubcinsiders.ca/2010/04/student-court-aus-presidential-election-void-and-of-no-effect/comment-page-1/#comment-9913 Taylor Loren Mon, 19 Apr 2010 07:24:12 +0000 http://blogs.ubc.ca/ubcinsiders/?p=2916#comment-9913 I'm starting to think that Student "Court" shouldn't be considered an Issue That Matters in the future. Instead, it should just be considered a hilarious joke that is Foxtrot worthy. I’m starting to think that Student “Court” shouldn’t be considered an Issue That Matters in the future. Instead, it should just be considered a hilarious joke that is Foxtrot worthy.

]]> By: ~*~Sexy Brunette~*~ http://ubcinsiders.ca/2010/04/student-court-aus-presidential-election-void-and-of-no-effect/comment-page-1/#comment-9912 ~*~Sexy Brunette~*~ Mon, 19 Apr 2010 07:15:42 +0000 http://blogs.ubc.ca/ubcinsiders/?p=2916#comment-9912 Dear Anonymous: The only reason the voter turnout was that high was because of ridiculous and dramatic candidates, plus the new ubcvotes system. Without the AUS & SUS EA the EUS elections wouldn't have even HAPPENED...AUS paid the bill and the AUS/SUS EAs were at every event working their asses off and manning the polling stations/online voting. Where was EUS and HKUS? Dear Anonymous:

The only reason the voter turnout was that high was because of ridiculous and dramatic candidates, plus the new ubcvotes system.

Without the AUS & SUS EA the EUS elections wouldn’t have even HAPPENED…AUS paid the bill and the AUS/SUS EAs were at every event working their asses off and manning the polling stations/online voting. Where was EUS and HKUS?

]]> By: Anonymous http://ubcinsiders.ca/2010/04/student-court-aus-presidential-election-void-and-of-no-effect/comment-page-1/#comment-9911 Anonymous Mon, 19 Apr 2010 03:57:30 +0000 http://blogs.ubc.ca/ubcinsiders/?p=2916#comment-9911 Fun Fact: The EUS EA was not paid at all, as he was required to regulate the First-Year Council Elections in September. Additional fun fact: The EUS spent $150 on their advertising. Outcome: 32% voter turnout, higher than Science, Arts, and Human Kinetics Combined. Verdict: Let constituencies handle their own elections. Meddling from third parties is unnecessary. Fun Fact:
The EUS EA was not paid at all, as he was required to regulate the First-Year Council Elections in September.

Additional fun fact:
The EUS spent $150 on their advertising.

Outcome:
32% voter turnout, higher than Science, Arts, and Human Kinetics Combined.

Verdict:
Let constituencies handle their own elections. Meddling from third parties is unnecessary.

]]> By: Alex Lougheed http://ubcinsiders.ca/2010/04/student-court-aus-presidential-election-void-and-of-no-effect/comment-page-1/#comment-9910 Alex Lougheed Mon, 19 Apr 2010 01:51:20 +0000 http://blogs.ubc.ca/ubcinsiders/?p=2916#comment-9910 Also, it's ridiculous to expect the same standard of electoral oversight between AMS and constituency elections. Why? A question of power, and resources. The AMS is a legal body that controls over $10M of public funds, whereas constituencies are creations of the AMS, subject to oversight by the AMS. The AMS Elections Administrator was paid over $7k for their job this year. The SUS EA was paid $200. SUS doesn't have the capacity to pay for the degree of oversight this ruling begs. Should 'judges' really be deciding that constituencies ought to raise their elections budgets by a factor of at least 35, so elections now compromise 11% of the overall budget? Probably not. Also, it’s ridiculous to expect the same standard of electoral oversight between AMS and constituency elections.

Why? A question of power, and resources.

The AMS is a legal body that controls over $10M of public funds, whereas constituencies are creations of the AMS, subject to oversight by the AMS.

The AMS Elections Administrator was paid over $7k for their job this year. The SUS EA was paid $200. SUS doesn’t have the capacity to pay for the degree of oversight this ruling begs.

Should ‘judges’ really be deciding that constituencies ought to raise their elections budgets by a factor of at least 35, so elections now compromise 11% of the overall budget?

Probably not.

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