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	<title>Comments on: Update on voting irregularities</title>
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		<title>By: Commodore Cuddles</title>
		<link>http://ubcinsiders.ca/2009/02/update-on-voting-irregularities-2/comment-page-1/#comment-10082</link>
		<dc:creator>Commodore Cuddles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 22:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*furry tear*</description>
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		<title>By: rodrigoferrarinunes</title>
		<link>http://ubcinsiders.ca/2009/02/update-on-voting-irregularities-2/comment-page-1/#comment-10080</link>
		<dc:creator>rodrigoferrarinunes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 21:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that too much attention has been given to this issue so far. The student who reported the behavior found it was something that should be reported immediately, and did so. I do not believe this person is blatantly lying or trying to run a smear campaign. In fact, Wlad (eyewitness) turns out to be part of the Knoll editing group who disendorsed Jeremy Wood for VP Academic. So they are perhaps running a double-smear campaign against all candidates... I am curious as to what exactly are the &#039;biases&#039; that caused the EC to discredit the testimony. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;One thing I ask people to keep in mind is that I am not the only person responsible for what is published at UBC Student Media. It seems that there are enough people running another type of smear against UBC Student Media. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Candidates are public figures running public campaigns, and should be able to face an opposition on their own. And everyone operates under some ideology... as to the criticism we&#039;ve posted, refer to the write-up (not mine) on Monegro&#039;s platform, and the many videos we&#039;ve posted.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I am not sure that the eyewitness is against &#039;several dozens&#039; of other people, as you suggest. There is not such indication in the report from the Electoral Committee. This has nothing to do with global warming. May the 3 paragraph report of the Elections Committee be taken as Final Word of God in this issue, so we can all be happy again!?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that too much attention has been given to this issue so far. The student who reported the behavior found it was something that should be reported immediately, and did so. I do not believe this person is blatantly lying or trying to run a smear campaign. In fact, Wlad (eyewitness) turns out to be part of the Knoll editing group who disendorsed Jeremy Wood for VP Academic. So they are perhaps running a double-smear campaign against all candidates&#8230; I am curious as to what exactly are the &#8216;biases&#8217; that caused the EC to discredit the testimony. </p>
<p>One thing I ask people to keep in mind is that I am not the only person responsible for what is published at UBC Student Media. It seems that there are enough people running another type of smear against UBC Student Media. </p>
<p>Candidates are public figures running public campaigns, and should be able to face an opposition on their own. And everyone operates under some ideology&#8230; as to the criticism we&#8217;ve posted, refer to the write-up (not mine) on Monegro&#8217;s platform, and the many videos we&#8217;ve posted.</p>
<p>I am not sure that the eyewitness is against &#8216;several dozens&#8217; of other people, as you suggest. There is not such indication in the report from the Electoral Committee. This has nothing to do with global warming. May the 3 paragraph report of the Elections Committee be taken as Final Word of God in this issue, so we can all be happy again!?</p>
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		<title>By: Commodore Cuddles</title>
		<link>http://ubcinsiders.ca/2009/02/update-on-voting-irregularities-2/comment-page-1/#comment-10079</link>
		<dc:creator>Commodore Cuddles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 20:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All of this makes me sad. I need a hug. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;-cc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of this makes me sad. I need a hug. </p>
<p>-cc</p>
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		<title>By: Maria_Jogova</title>
		<link>http://ubcinsiders.ca/2009/02/update-on-voting-irregularities-2/comment-page-1/#comment-10078</link>
		<dc:creator>Maria_Jogova</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 20:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rodrigo, what evidence do we have that the incident took place?  Why should we take the statement as being a falsehood?  We have 1 person who stated that this incident happened, and countless others who said that it didn&#039;t.  Perhaps you should realize that there are good student politicians.  I know lots of them.  Unfortunately, most of them aren&#039;t in the AMS, and the ones who try to make it are discouraged by those people who spread lies and falsehoods about them.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;There&#039;s room to be critical without resorting to slander.  What you published wasn&#039;t criticism.  Criticism and being critical involves looking at hard facts, looking at things like platform, and critiquing those by pointing out both strengths and weaknesses.  It has nothing to do with advocating for a certain ideology, and everything to do with reporting on the truth.  If you have a problem with the Elections committee, perhaps you should do something to reform it.  But so far, we have the word of one person against that of several dozens who didn&#039;t witness anything sketchy take place.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Let&#039;s just get this clear.  Critical thought=/=slander.  You can do one without doing the other.  I&#039;d say that reporting someone&#039;s name before facts were clear is slanderous and involves no critical thinking whatsoever.  I think at some point, we should stop being skeptical and accept fact.  Otherwise, we&#039;d all still be in the realm of denying global warming because we all thought that scientists were out to get us ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rodrigo, what evidence do we have that the incident took place?  Why should we take the statement as being a falsehood?  We have 1 person who stated that this incident happened, and countless others who said that it didn&#8217;t.  Perhaps you should realize that there are good student politicians.  I know lots of them.  Unfortunately, most of them aren&#8217;t in the AMS, and the ones who try to make it are discouraged by those people who spread lies and falsehoods about them.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s room to be critical without resorting to slander.  What you published wasn&#8217;t criticism.  Criticism and being critical involves looking at hard facts, looking at things like platform, and critiquing those by pointing out both strengths and weaknesses.  It has nothing to do with advocating for a certain ideology, and everything to do with reporting on the truth.  If you have a problem with the Elections committee, perhaps you should do something to reform it.  But so far, we have the word of one person against that of several dozens who didn&#8217;t witness anything sketchy take place.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s just get this clear.  Critical thought=/=slander.  You can do one without doing the other.  I&#8217;d say that reporting someone&#8217;s name before facts were clear is slanderous and involves no critical thinking whatsoever.  I think at some point, we should stop being skeptical and accept fact.  Otherwise, we&#8217;d all still be in the realm of denying global warming because we all thought that scientists were out to get us ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Rodrigo Ferrari Nunes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rodrigo Ferrari Nunes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 20:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Looks like the entire thing was a slander campaign. Clap clap. Glad to know that people need to resort to these sorts of tactics to try to win or influence an election. And you ask why students don&#039;t like student politics...&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I find it is quite interesting that nobody has a critical take on the Elections Committee statement. And therefore, it must be a &#039;smear&#039; campaign. Poor innocent politicians were just being nice and following regulations when evil students with undefined &#039;questionable biases&#039; tried to smear them and hurt their upright campaign. Bad students, now should be punished by the authority of the AMS. And, if you ever say anything critical of anyone, you must be a slandering smear campaigner, since the narrow, self-serving, &#039;logic&#039; of the status quo student media does not allow for anything more sophisticated. The papal infallibility of the Elections Committee is not up for any questioning. Beware that any critical thinking can be construed as evil-intentioned, questionable (without detail as to why), libelous, slant &amp; smear. Some people need more detail to be convinced, but ain&#039;t necessarily so for the pro-Sauderist student media. Thanks for coming after us, though, we&#039;re flattered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Looks like the entire thing was a slander campaign. Clap clap. Glad to know that people need to resort to these sorts of tactics to try to win or influence an election. And you ask why students don&#39;t like student politics&#8230;&quot;</p>
<p>I find it is quite interesting that nobody has a critical take on the Elections Committee statement. And therefore, it must be a &#39;smear&#39; campaign. Poor innocent politicians were just being nice and following regulations when evil students with undefined &#39;questionable biases&#39; tried to smear them and hurt their upright campaign. Bad students, now should be punished by the authority of the AMS. And, if you ever say anything critical of anyone, you must be a slandering smear campaigner, since the narrow, self-serving, &#39;logic&#39; of the status quo student media does not allow for anything more sophisticated. The papal infallibility of the Elections Committee is not up for any questioning. Beware that any critical thinking can be construed as evil-intentioned, questionable (without detail as to why), libelous, slant &amp; smear. Some people need more detail to be convinced, but ain&#39;t necessarily so for the pro-Sauderist student media. Thanks for coming after us, though, we&#39;re flattered.</p>
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		<title>By: radicalbeer</title>
		<link>http://ubcinsiders.ca/2009/02/update-on-voting-irregularities-2/comment-page-1/#comment-10073</link>
		<dc:creator>radicalbeer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 18:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Should vexatious complaints be punishable under the electoral code?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;They do nothing but smear and waste the elections committee&#039;s time, and candidates should be cautious when using the EC&#039;s time which could be used for more important things like genuine complaints and engaging the electorate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should vexatious complaints be punishable under the electoral code?</p>
<p>They do nothing but smear and waste the elections committee&#8217;s time, and candidates should be cautious when using the EC&#8217;s time which could be used for more important things like genuine complaints and engaging the electorate.</p>
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